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Remember the movie Innerspace from 1987? No? Well, this week we quickly chat about the new Kilian documentary Inside Kilian on Amazon Prime before we dive into training and weekly goals. We debate bringing a change of socks for ultras and then dive into shoe talk. 100 miles is a long way to go, but Mathias is getting ready as we discuss the physical and mental challenges he will be facing in Utah this April. Will he end the race with jet black hair, bangs across his forehead and dressed in full on goth fashion? Only time will tell!



Remember 10 hour long Youtube videos? Doug watched most of the replay of the Black Canyon 100k and shared his thoughts. We then dive into the anxiousness for trail adventures that spring brings. Mathias then talks about how incredible it is in Europe after both hosts watched a video from the Alps. Join us on Clubhouse, maybe?



What is the future of trail running? How long will we mourn for Daft Punk? After a few introductory comments, including yet another check in on Mathias’ chafed thighs, we dive into the newest Wonderland Trail video, highlighting Kaytlyn Gerbin’s FKT, presented by The North Face. Check it out and be inspired to explore America’s most-visible National Park. When in doubt, Donald Duck it.



When did you last hear a David Hasselhoff song on the radio?  After reminiscing on the golden age of radio, the guys dive in deep into a real conversation. So many gear companies and nutrition companies claim superiority over everyone else, but how does one wade through the boasting? We try to come up with an answer.



We are debating taking a trip to Mexico with Ted Cruz, but Doug’s eyes may still be frozen shut. Mathias is recovering slowly. Broken Arrow is moved from June to October and we wonder what races will look like this year. To end, we talk about cross training on a stationary bike and wonder if Doug will feel the benefits after a winter’s worth of riding. Hey, Scott, stay for the long outro music!


Mathias takes an avalanche course for trail runners while Doug longs to run with migrating animals. K2 is talked about, and the guys dive into a discussion about watching disasters in real time.



Winter weather is impacting training plans, but that is ok. Mathias has a good blanket to recommend. Tights get destroyed at Kaiser, but the power of walking during runs persists. Save local gear shops, they are the soul of the outdoor community, sometimes.


It’s time for some new gear for 2021. We talk masks, tights, sun shades, hydration packs and of course, socks! Which gear do we love? What are the problems with it? Who makes the most inappropriate joke? Listen and maybe learn!


When races are less of a priority, how do we get ready for a new race? Mathias signs up for a 100 miler, and we discuss the mental and physical challenges of preparing. Doug then brings up a story about an adventure some he knows is undertaking, which nobody will ever hear about. Is an experience with documentation something you would do? Oh, and Ultrasignup was sold.


After lobbying for Toto to be on the podcast, we dive into whether or not rock climbers compete about elevation gain on climbs. Doug may sign up for a race and Mathias is hoping for a European adventure race. We then discuss the short trail running film, Snow Going on the PCT. We end on shoe talk, which makes sense since this is a trail running podcast.